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Brent Abrahamson's avatar

I agree with much of what you write. I never watched TYT very much. I know that David Shuster is associated through Rebel HQ. I think Shuster is a good journalist, and I would like to see him leave TYT network.

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Eric Gross's avatar

I had only started watching specifically for Gaza and election coverage that seemed genuine and passionate, but I'm even just the last 6 months the tenor of the main show hosts has shifted dramatically. Thanks for the comment

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Ralph Maver's avatar

Bye! Bye, TYT! Good riddance. Traitors. Cenk doesn't seem to know much about the far left. Being as the far left is not involved in mainstream politics it is not possible that it could have an influence on the Democrats.

How could the TYT defer to MAGA? I don't want to be associated with their treachery.

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Gavin L Simpson's avatar

Why do more not support Jill Stein?

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

I dumped TYT in 2016 when they went all in for Hillary. I decided then that Cenk was nothing but a blowhard promoting himself, a used car salesman playing talk show host, not to mention just another pathetic sheepdog for the Democratic Party.

I see nothing has changed in 8 years.

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Eric Gross's avatar

If I had been watching then and they went hard in for Clinton I probably would have done the same thing and been years ahead of where I am now. Truly, their coverage of Gaza has been among the best produced in the United States, but that's it. Almost everything else now is total garbage

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Susan Mercurio's avatar

Yes, that's when I left TYT.

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Carol Brownson's avatar

I left TYT when they fired Jonathan Larsen.

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Susan Mercurio's avatar

While I left TYT years ago, and disagree with their collaborationist beliefs, I am tired of you TDS sufferers claiming that "Trump will bring fascism" while living in a fascist system right now.

Fascism is here. It's not connected to Trump, it's part of our political system.

Before you start hollering that I'm a Trump supporter, or at least a fellow traveler, stop right there.

I'm a truth supporter.

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Eric Gross's avatar

Trump definitely is a fascist. I have made clear in my post Syria that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris specifically have also taken fascist actions. Donald Trump is different. He is literally talking about concentration camps, banning the media, using police to shoot protesters. Trump is different. Denying that isn't going to save you from him.

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AntifaUS's avatar

ive literally had pro trump cops in san jose try to assasinate me and threaten to kill my jewish family when trump was in office in 2019. if you try to lie like that to my face, I'll stick a knife in your neck

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T. Brunsendorf's avatar

I don't like jews.

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𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮's avatar

I ditched them years ago.

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Paul Canavan's avatar

I followed TYT for years, but their turn to the dark side when it started with Ana’s ‘birthing person’ issue. She showed her snowflake then and Cenk backed her vocal opposition to certain trans positions. Their turn has continued to a ‘both sides’ line of news media. They are no longer the home of progressives, but of MAGA appeasement.

There is no appeasing MAGA. They are a fascist cult. My only hope is that they will all reach the FO part of FAFO.

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Bryan Charles Vish's avatar

From a former member named Zaphod Beeblebrox, that's an awesome reference.

Excellent writing, by the way! I really enjoyed this piece.

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Manny Otiko's avatar

Great article. You can't collaborate with neo-fascists.

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Kyelle's avatar

Yep, just unfollowed them. Due Dissidence has a good interview with Jimmy Dore about how these two actually are the worst.

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Jonathan Levy's avatar

They were gross morons long before 2024 in providing cover for corporate democrats. Now Ana is attempting to be left anti woke or something and Cenk is still a bloated grifter.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

I agree with nearly every word you wrote here except your clinging to your blind faith in “vaccines”. Clearly you are very well informed on most issues however you seem to be trapped in the religion of fear of “viral” phantoms and faith in false hope. Are you actually one of the few who still refuse to recognize that “covid” was a phantom theorized into existence to scapegoat for the expected “historic increase in deaths” expected in coming years due to the aging baby boomer generation-the demographic where the “covid” phantom was deadly-that was predicted in this 2017 census .gov article? Or that the experimental mRNA injection was an absolute failure in preventing infection, transmission or death or that NO VACCINE EVER has been demonstrated effective at stopping “viral” disease because NO “VIRUS” HAS EVER BEEN ISOLATED AND REDUCED TO PURIFIED ISOLATE REQUIRED TO DEMONSTRATE AN AGENT RESPONSIBLE FOR OR CAPABLE OF CAUSING DISEASE.

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2017/10/aging-boomers-deaths.html

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Eric Gross's avatar

Brother, if you don't believe viruses even exist, maybe this isn't the page for you. That is flat Earth level nonsense. Thanks for the comment though.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

Step1-Identify cluster of deaths.

Step2-Blame a phantom based on mass, flawed, unverifiable testing of a population for RNA fragments presumed synonymous with infection by the phantom.

Silence dissent.

Step3-Expand disease definition to include illness previously recognized caused by other or unknown causes thus increasing “case count”.

Silence dissent

Step4-Prescribe toxic treatment like AZT/intubation to increase death count.

Silence dissent

Step5-Insist lifetime less toxic, slower killing “cocktail therapy”/“vaccine boosters” are only protection/defense against often undetectable phantom.

Silence dissent

 SARS-cov2/covid19 is hiv/AIDS2.0.

  Both are a LIE.

If hepatitis-c is “cured” when no virus is detected why does an AIDS patient with undetectable viral load and t-cell count 600+ require lifetime treatment with a balanced “cocktail” of slow killing, toxic chemotherapeutic drugs that have known side effects that mirror the definition of AIDS?

If an AIDS patient with undetectable viral load went for an AIDS test and didn’t tell that they were previously hiv positive they would be told they were not infected and do not need treatment but would be encouraged to begin the recently released hiv vaccine that requires injection every two months. For the rest of your sexually active life.

As with any profit based business, ensuring return customers is vital for success.

  If as is claimed, hiv remains latent, inactive, not reproducing and undetectable in hidden reservoirs how can anyone ever be certain they are not infected and the virus isn’t just inactive and undetectable in hidden reservoirs?

 Why isn’t everyone on anti-hiv treatment? Just in case.

For the common good.

How are people not seeing through this bs?

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

We were told in 1984 there were an estimated one million hiv infected americans and without vaccine/cure that number would double annually “exploding” into general heterosexual population. “1 in 5 heterosexuals” were expected to be hiv positive by 1990. The population of Africa where the phantom was theorized to have originated and transferred to humans via eating, being bitten by or having sex with monkeys was predicted to be decimated by turn of the century-last century. Today, despite increase of nearly every other sexually transmitted infection in the general population, hiv remains primarily restricted to original risk groups testing and being treated for the theoretical phantom that has never been found/isolated from a human body but only presumed present based on invalid tests for non-specific biological markers. 37years into this non-spreading sexually transmitted epidemic the number of infected americans has only risen from 1 to 1.2 million. Meanwhile, despite unending famine, drought, endemic disease relabeled “AIDS”, genocidal conflict and with no improvement in living conditions the population of Africa has more than doubled. Since the 1985 Bangui definition of AIDS in Africa no hiv test is required for AIDS diagnosis in Africa. How do they prove causation? It is interesting that Keith Haring who died from the toxic treatments prescribed to fight a phantom hiv used cutting a snake- a certain religions image of a lying demon- as symbol for stopping AIDS. If you look at the facts, clearly hiv is a lie. Why do You believe it?

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

eric. If you beLIEve but can not present science, fact and verifiable data to prove that your phantoms exist then clearly this is indeed not the page for me. I stopped believing Dark Ages mythology when I left the fundamentalist xtian cult I was raised in. Clearly you are still mired there.

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Eric Gross's avatar

You didn't present any evidence of your wild claims that go against 100% of scientists and doctors. Go ahead and present your evidence because you sound like a f****** moron now. I don't need to prove to you the thing that literally the entire world and the entire scientific community agrees is true and real. There are millions of pages of proof for you to review without me required to do any work. You're the one making wild claims so go ahead and try to prove them

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

“100%”? What about these 2,897 signatories, over a thousand with advanced degrees

(608 PhDs, 377 MDs, 6 DOs, and 109 MSc)

plus 3 Nobel Laureates with a combined four Nobel Prizes in Chemistry

The 2,897 doubters: https://rethinkingaids.com/index.php/signatories

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

The Chemical Bases of The Various AIDS Epidemics: Recreational Drugs, Anti-viral chemotherapy and malnutrition. https://www.duesberg.com/papers/chemical-bases.html Get back to me when you can demonstrate comprehension of true detailed science and verifiable data. Or when you can provide ANYTHING that supports your blind faith religious beLIEf.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

If my disbelief in phantom viruses is “flat earth” stuff then how do you explain failure of absolutely everything in the 1984 proposed “hive”/AIDS THEORY that would or could prove it true? How do you explain a phantom “viral” threat that is only deadly in the aging demographic predicted two years earlier to result in “historic increase in deaths” in coming years? Clearly your blind faith in phantoms is Dark Ages mentality.

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Eric Gross's avatar

Brother strawberry, I am never going to agree with you on this because I know for a fact you're wrong. There is virtually no one that agrees with you on this in the scientific community. I imagine that you got your information either from Facebook or YouTube, and not from doctors and scientists and researchers.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

But thanks for finally silencing your arrogant ignorance. It is always satisfying when the science, extensively researched fact and verifiable data gained through my nearly 40 years of study can be used to pummel ignorance into silence. Now go write about something you are passionate about and qualified by experience to write about. Perhaps masturbation.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

Go now. Hide and wallow in the cesspool of willfully blind ignorance and delusion where you feel safe.

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Eric Gross's avatar

Yes you found people who agree with your pre-supposed conclusion, which you openly stated you already believed in 1987. This is a belief in search of proof, not an unbiased conclusion based on evidentiary analysis. Again, I'm not an expert here so I defer to expert analysis. Forget HIV - you said covid isn't real, influenza isn't real. So you're not going to prove your hypothesis by focusing on AIDS only. You can't prove your belief based only on HIV, because your belief is the entire global scientific and medical community is intentionally lying about the very existence of viruses. I won't be replying anymore, I have a lot to edit and compile today.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

I have spent the last 40 years searching for proof that an often undetectable phantom called “hiv” causes sexually transmitted epidemic immune failure disease. All i have found in that time is that the only people dying of “AIDS” these days are those who follow prescribed treatment for an often undetectable phantom. Explain

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

Flaws In The Coronavirus Pandemic Theory http://saveelsobrante.net/CoronavirusPanic.pdf Get back to me when you can demonstrate comprehension of the carefully explained science, extensively researched fact and verifiable data that completely disproves your willfully ignorant, blind religious faith. I don’t expect a reply from an ignorant coward like you. Shame because some of your other writings have merit.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

A coward you are eric gross but also a fool.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

I have and am quoting from the work and writing of Nobel Prize winner for PCR Kary Mullis and one of the world’s leading microbiologists Dr Peter Duesberg regarding “hiv”. I have been at this since 1987-long before “facebook” or youtube existed. Before you dare to attempt hurling such insults my way kindly demonstrate your comprehension of the PCR technology that determines “hiv” “viral load” and show what science and verifiable data proves to you that your religious beLIEf in “viral” phantoms is true. As for “flu”, why and how would an infectious “virus” be seasonal? As for “hiv” kindly explain how a supposed sexually transmitted “virus” has remained for forty years primarily restricted to original “risk groups” testing and treating/pre-treating for an often undetectable phantom while every other sexually transmitted illness as well as unwanted pregnancy has steadily increased in general population. How has the population of Africa -where the “hiv” phantom is THEORIZED to have originated and spread heterosexually- predicted by the 1984 PROPOSED but unproven “hiv”/AIDS THEORY to be “decimated” by the year 2000 despite unending famine, drought, endemic disease and genocidal conflicts more than doubled since 1984 prediction of demise? Wouldn’t all that sex be spreading the deadly “hiv” and killing everyone instead?

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

Are you aware that Nobel Prize Winner for PCR technology used to determine “viral load” Kary Mullis states that Scientific Evidence that “hiv” causes AIDS “Doesn’t exist”? Here. Read the foreword written by Kary Mullis for the Duesberg book Inventing The AIDS Virus if you have the courage. Or intelligence to comprehend it. https://pearl-hifi.com/11_Spirited_Growth/10_Health_Neg/04_Pandemics/01_AIDS/Duesberg/Inventing_the_AIDS_Virus.pdf

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Eric Gross's avatar

If only a single "scientist" believes this, it has no basis for belief. It's literally one fking guy hahahaha

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

Based on my presentation of detailed science, extensively researched fact and verifiable data from 2,897 signatories, over a thousand with advanced degrees

(608 PhDs, 377 MDs, 6 DOs, and 109 MSc)

plus 3 Nobel Laureates with a combined four Nobel Prizes in Chemistry

The 2,897 doubters: While you provide nothing but blustery blowhardedness it would appear that the arrogance of your willful ignorance has been put in its place. The dark hole where you keep it. Get back to me when you can demonstrate actual comprehension of science.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

A critique of the Montagnier evidence for the HIV/AIDS hypothesis

Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos et al. Med Hypotheses. 2004. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15325002/

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

THE AIDS INDUSTRY AND MEDIA WANT YOU TO THINK THERE ARE ONLY A HANDFUL OF SCIENTISTS WHO DOUBT THE HIV–AIDS HYPOTHESIS.

HERE’S THE REALITY:

2,897 signatories, over a thousand with advanced degrees

(608 PhDs, 377 MDs, 6 DOs, and 109 MSc)

plus 3 Nobel Laureates with a combined four Nobel Prizes in Chemistry. https://rethinkingaids.com/index.php/signatories

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

Funny that you “know for a fact” that i am “wrong” yet you are unable to provide science, fact and verifiable data to support your claim while simultaneously being unable to refute or even demonstrate comprehension of the detailed science, extensively researched fact and verifiable data i present that utterly destroys your blind faith religious beLIEf.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

Actually no. I get my information from people like Dr Peter Duesberg and others. https://www.duesberg.com/papers/index.html

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

When, where, how and by who was a “virus” ever obtained from a person suffering illness, reduced to a purified isolate required to establish Gold Standard for diagnostic testing and demonstrated to cause identical illness upon infecting a new host?

Not “flat earth”.

Just basic, long established common sense rules for proving disease causation.

Do you know a better way? Other than blind religious faith in and fear of phantoms that seems to be your religion.

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Eric Gross's avatar

Unless you are a virologist or a biologist or a research physician, I don't care about your opinion. Those are the people I listen to, And none of them believe the crazy s*** you believe like that viruses aren't real. Again, maybe this just isn't the page for you. We are never going to agree on this. You can follow if you can deal with that. But viruses are exist. They are real. They kill people everyday. Like you don't believe in HIV or AIDS? You don't think the flu is a real thing?

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

THE AIDS INDUSTRY AND MEDIA WANT YOU TO THINK THERE ARE ONLY A HANDFUL OF SCIENTISTS WHO DOUBT THE HIV–AIDS HYPOTHESIS.

HERE’S THE REALITY:

2,897 signatories, over a thousand with advanced degrees

(608 PhDs, 377 MDs, 6 DOs, and 109 MSc)

plus 3 Nobel Laureates with a combined four Nobel Prizes in Chemistry. https://rethinkingaids.com/index.php/signatories

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

The fact that i do not beLIEve in “hiv” does not mean i don’t believe in Acquired Immune Deficiency. The Chemical Bases Of The Various AIDS epidemics- recreational drugs, anti-viral chemotherapy and malnutrition. Written by a PHD microbiologist https://www.duesberg.com/papers/chemical-bases.html

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